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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Vote on the "Lost Town" sculpture here Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the threat of the lost sculpter thingy gone away, or is it lurking in the background still.

I know one good one, its in a place thats had its beaches re - charged, its seafront tidied up, and have a "lost couple"

http://www.newbigginbay.co.uk/

Have a look round its weblinks to let it tell you its story.
and the "lost couple" well they are on a plinth out in the bay...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not wishing to take anything away from Newbiggin but how many people live in this village?  Walton and Jaywick might look heavily populated by comparison.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed you may be correct amenity.
The comparason is, newbiggin has had it promanade refurbished, its beaches recharged, and if it was to have a sea sculpture, its couple look, in my opinian, better than stainless steel pipes sticking verticaly out the sea.
For sometime Jaywick has had the "threat" of a Landmark Pier, with whistles and bells attached.
We in Jaywick are now waiting for our own beach re chargement, from Lions Point up to Cocket Wick.
we have lost to the sea, so much of our last beach recharge because of misplaced rock groynes, but this is to be corrected.....we hope anyway.
our recharge is not for looks or holiday makers, but for the safety of the 1,000`s of annual holiday makers in there tin boxes next to the sea, and of course the 1,000`s like me who reside next to the sea and in its locality..

just how much visitor income would that really generate as compared with the one time threat of having Waltons (not really wanted, so i belive) lost town sculpture.

Jaywick has its present day "charms" and its in your face horrors too, so unless the horrors are faced up to, remeadiated along with our many other horrors like our roads, who localy would vote for either a landmark pier, or a sea sculpture.
If ANY money was poured into sea based attractions, the land based distractions would negate the previous out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amenity wrote:
Not wishing to take anything away from Newbiggin but how many people live in this village?  Walton and Jaywick might look heavily populated by comparison.


The population of Newbiggin by the sea is in the 7000s, about double that of Jaywick but comparable, I think, to Holland.
About five years ago I fulfiled a long-held ambition to drive around much of the British coastline. We started at Skegness and visited every seaside town as far north as Edinburgh. Then we crossed to Carlisle and followed the coast from Whitehaven, down to Liverpool and right around Wales. It took a couple of weeks and what we spent on food, petrol and accommodation would have paid for a Carribean cruise. But hardly a day goes by when we don't point at the tele and say," Yeah, we've been there, remember the woman with the funny eye?" So it's given us a lotaf lasting memories.
Anyway the point (at last) is that I am one of the few local explorers ever to have set foot in Newbiggin. It was an odd town. We decided that we were not in a seaside town, but a town which happened to be beside the sea. There seemed to be no acknowledgement of the fact that there were beaches and a few quaint old buildings. The majority of houses on the long promenade were just ordinary houses built in the early 1900s.
We didn't stay long.

BUT

I am seriously impressed with what they have done there. I didn't quite grasp where the funding came from but the resulting transformation is startling and shows what can be done if the will is there and the right people are in charge. The couple-sculpture (and I am a total Philistine when it comes to art) is a masterpiece.

Why couldn't something like that be done here?
Answers by email  to "Supercilious_self-serving_short-sighted_scallywags@hiddenagenda.com.

The best answer will receive a prize of a length of steel pipe.
The second prize for the runner-up (or "first loser" as we call them) will be 41 lengths of steel pipe in the shape of a church, sort of. The runner-up will be free to do whatever they want with their prize. This includes the option of dumping it in the water off Walton beach.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they put me on the sects offenders register."

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its ok, i`m ok, just fell out me chair laughing again....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicar is on the ball with this one;
"I am seriously impressed with what they have done there. I didn't quite grasp where the funding came from but the resulting transformation is startling and shows what can be done if the will is there and the right people are in charge. "

Wouldn't it be interesting to see exactly what has been spent on actual improvements for the coastal resorts of Tendring and see what TDC bought for it?

I should add that I had not realised Newbiggin was as large as it appears to be, however Dovercourt and Harwich in terms of population leave it behind, but here, unless we give up public open space we cannot have it(genuine improvements), why?

Lets lower the speed limit (in the residential bits), narrow the roads increase the pavement width and plant some trees.

But where are we going to put the cars?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amenity,
Lets lower the speed limit (in the residential bits), narrow the roads increase the pavement width and plant some trees.

But where are we going to put the cars?
Ok,
narrowing the roads like in Walton has resulted in a more pedestrian friendly area
but at times falsely leading the pedestrians into believing they have the right to walk in the middle of the road..(just like Brooklands/Jaywick, as that has NO pavement at all)
Narrowed roads being made one way with reduced enforced speed limits make areas more pleasent for pedestrians, but not the essential services / buses/ taxis.
making them also one way makes them pedestrian friendly too.

If i was to use my bus pass for trips into town, that to would reduce the parking need by one, times that by ten, or a hundred, and town centres would look empty, but be busy...

Your comments on what - where - when on TDC`s funding of our improvements would open eyes wide shut..(no 007 style jokes please)
banging on about my pet hatred of Frintons missapropriation of my / our / your monies for just a loo still riles me / and others no end....
How about a life size effigy of one certain Mayor on a pedistal mounted out to sea, but low enough to get a good soaking each day...ggrrrrrrrrr.............lol..
Frintons own town center is ripe for pedestrian friendly improvements, such as reduced width road made one way (and not on out to sea vicar) but turning right to lead back to the gates of hell again...

Your own dovercourt no doubt has many areas ripe pedestrianisation ideas..

But like all town and city ideas, you have to get the public into them, then out back home again......
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be interesting to see exactly what has been spent on actual improvements for the coastal resorts of Tendring and see what TDC bought for it?


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Gover...htsandresponsibilities/DG_4003239
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your point Ivan, what we need is a shopping list, if we can put a watertight one together on here one of us can ask the question of TDC, what do you say?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How big a piece of paper can we use...........lol

OK, perhaps a new thread may be a better idea, just for our ideas on what needs asking, from whom, about what and when....

a word of caution, what do we do when heads start rolling.....??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provide a basket.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better idea, get a bigger basket..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be like Russian dolls, baskets inside baskets. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I `m bored.
lets vote on something that lulls fearless Frintons father fiqure, from his throne in the Taj.

or perhaps do the touristy thing with a camera, and,
a embarasing moment caught on camera could conceively capture conspicuous coalition,
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The jockeys and trainers and owners are not allowed to do insider dealing why so our elected representatives?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ivan burit wrote:
I `m bored.
lets vote on something that lulls fearless Frintons father fiqure, from his throne in the Taj.

or perhaps do the touristy thing with a camera, and,
a embarasing moment caught on camera could conceively capture conspicuous coalition,


"Try the Taj, tourists", taunted Terry teasingly, "T'sonly 2wentyp. Those thick Tendring taxpayers think they've totally triumphed. They're T*ssers."
Theoretically, tremendous turds (taking the trophies (3)), terrifyingly threaten the toilet-users tomorrow.
Thus, they took the totally tortuous twisting trail that threads through Toosey to Thorrington to try to tempt their tots to try the thoroughly terrible tasting tablets that treat the truly tantalising things that transpired today.

For the benefit of the curious, it was a bottle (unshared) of Mallorcan Macia Batle. 13.5% by volume. Don't it show?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very - very good vicar.

if you are that good running on 13.5 %,
how the hell (heaven ? ) would you be running on 100%.

ok, i cant play now, more acres of overgrown ex caravan concrete pitches are calling me like a sirens call to d o o m, and need the grass cut on them....

on concrete i almost hear you say..........lol.....(sorry vicar)


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