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pepsi
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 161
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Town Centre Traffic Lights |
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Hey, not sure if anyone out there can throw any light on the accuracy of this.
Have heard rumbles that when the road "improvements" were put in place in town centre, sensors were also fitted to all traffic lights [hence the reason for digging them all up] and buses in order to ensure that buses would get priority i.e. when they came to lights which were red then lights would quickly change to green.
Seems that now, however, the buses have all been re-routed around the new one way system in such a manner that only one of these sets of sensor traffic lights is passed by the buses.
If the above is true then we have had a substanital amount of money wasted on unused traffic light sensors, wastage that has been approved by the TDC cabinet and the Technical Services portfolio holder.
Anyone out there know if this is true ?
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Lin

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| I am not sure about the safety aspect of the traffic lights for pedestrians as the green man does not appear high up like he used to.When I last used one of the new crossings the green man was on the post at waist height(of course this may have changed now) completely obscured by anyone standing next to it. |
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jollypops
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Clacton
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | green man was on the post at waist height( |
Probly has something to do with DDA and Children |
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amenity
Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Could fit a repeater, you know another up high? |
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jollypops
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Clacton
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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With TDC involved do you think that they can do anything sensible!  |
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amenity
Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't it a good idea if our planners or road designers could be pushed about in wheelchairs for a few weeks to understand the requirements?
Then break one of their legs so they can understand what its like on crutches  |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: town centre |
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| what a disaster i now avoid clacton town centre at all costs and drive to frinton to do my banking as i am totally confused by new layout and constant changing of access to various roads. Blonde you see lol |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Congratulations clacton is now a total disaster area and the town centre needs avoiding at all costs. Constant changing of access and the mess have made me totally avoid town centre at all costs. |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Congratulations clacton is now a total disaster area and the town centre needs avoiding at all costs. Constant changing of access and the mess have made me totally avoid town centre at all costs. |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Congratulations clacton is now a total disaster area and the town centre needs avoiding at all costs. Constant changing of access and the mess have made me totally avoid town centre at all costs. |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: Love to shop anywhere but clacton |
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| Congratulations clacton is now a total disaster area and the town centre needs avoiding at all costs. Constant changing of access has me completely confused and the mess make me totally avoid town centre at all costs. |
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stuckinessex
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Holland-on-sea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Congratulations clacton is now a total disaster area and the town centre needs avoiding at all costs. Constant changing of access and the mess have made me totally avoid town centre at all costs. |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ever since TDC road planners played spin the bottle with the way traffick flows (or not) through / round/ by passes town centre, we have got brand new traffick lights that have had orange covers over them for months and months and months...
Now this phenonemenon is at two sites around town centre, but the most dangerous is the several sets as you approach the Pier Avenue central / Jackson Road / Rosemary Road....
Pedestrians really do not know what way to look before crossing that dangerous intersection, and with the lights covered.........Crazy.......... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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Lin

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Another dangerous spot is where Jackson Road joins West Avenue at the Hospice.Those driving from the West Ave area have to give way to Jackson Road ,it's a bit scarey there on occasions.
Also hate Rosemary Road as it now takes the unsuspecting completely away from the town and you have to drive right up to the top of Station Road to get back again.  |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome back young Lin...
You are right about being directed out of town..
I think the planners thought that when you got to rosemary road lights, you only wanted out, but you know, and i know that if you cannot park, its creating more traffic by going round in circles again..
By rights, i have a blue badge, but cannot always park in my / our bays in Pallister road, so it can be another round trip.(i wont go into my health problems...lol..)
As far as i know, my badge is not valid on my scoot..(but have been promised some bike parking bays outside the hospice.)...
So its loose - loose situation for all matey.....
Funny story time...friends of ours who have a grundy bin came into town only to find that its all been changed...
I asked if they went right at the NAFFI....where..??..the naffi i said, that horrid brown building thats painted white and red in our TDC`s vision of the new town centre....
My friends have known me / us for some time, know me to be a bit..(wierd..lol.) so i had to explain about a £60 fine for turning right.....
At this point they looked at me as if i`d lost it completely...........
It took some time to explain why you cannot turn right between 10am and 4pm....
There answer.....WHY..............
WHY....is such an understated word i think........
WHY...................lol................... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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Lin

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I avoid that area completely as it becomes all confusing as to who should be where and when they can be there.
By the way Ivan ,that NAFFI building aint brown ,it's more like that stuff that newborn babies do on the first day......YUK ...ask your wife Ivan ,she'll know what I mean ,also my apologies if anyone is tucking into supper whilst reading this.
And finally WELCOME to stuckinessex ,take no notice of that debug blah blah blah ,the message is usually sent ok ,you are not the first to get caught out by that one no names mentioned hey. |
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amenity
Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Good question Ivan, go ahead and ask the road planners, be interesting to see what they have to say. |
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pepsi
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 161
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well I can tell you that our past and present portfolio holder for Technical Services, which covers things like roads and parking, denied all responsibility just prior to the local elections.
Mind you he also stated he was still living in the ward he was standing in when he had moved out several months previously !. |
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Nikadi
Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 123 Location: Clacton
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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The new traffic lights are ridiculous. They're in all of the wrong places! If they're insisting on changing this town they should at least make it safe for us! _________________ =D |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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HA..HA..HA..I think its part of the "master plan"...?...
If you wanted to pedestrianise the whole Town centre, instead of only just a bit of it, make it visualy attractive, but if it dont work, you can then say...
OK, mark 2 version, concrete it all over now.........Hey Presto.....no cars....
Ok, i`ll sit in the naughty corner for a while.........lol... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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Nikadi
Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 123 Location: Clacton
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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*Grumbles* I hate this master plan.
It isn't going to work. The money they're spending on that bloody fountain alone could go to so much better use! _________________ =D |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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OI, what about my motor bike parking bays aswell...lol..
Been told about `em, but dont see `em....
Now i`m an old boy, but doo luv me toys..
I`m also an "not very well old boy" so cannot walk far..
(no, its not coz i`m drunk either..lol..
OK, i should use me push bike, got two in fact, but....i aint got big lungs..(been told i got a big gob..) who me...lol....
Been told to act me age more than once...mostly by me wife....lol.....
Anyway, regeneration...
Well, yes, you cannot hide no matter what you do i`m afraid mate..
In sunny Skegness, they are spending £650 MILLION....thats a lot of regen in anyones money........ _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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Lin

Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Alright ,I admit it,I am not a great fan of taxi drivers (thanks to a small minority of daft ones) BUT ....I do think they have a valid point about not being allowed up Pier Ave.
Our town ,whether we care to admit it or not ,has a large population of older folk ,with age comes a lack of mobility(not in all cases ,don't want to upset the active elderly ).
When someone of this age bracket wants to get a taxi to pop into town ,they want to be dropped off near where they want to shop.Why the hell should they pay for a taxi and have to be dropped off anywhere but where they want to be and have to struggle round the block to reach Boots or wherever they wish to spend their money.
I am with them on this idea to blockade Pier Ave,it's their livlihood that is going down the drain and it just seems that hard-working taxi drivers are being penalised for bothering to get up in the morning and go and earn a living.
Older people are deprived from shopping where they want in THEIR town centre.
Pier Ave used to be thronging with people but have a look down from the Traffic lights that don't work at the top of Pier Ave and the place looks like Clacton Common on a bad day.
Either pedestianise the whoe damn area or let us have the freedom to get a cab and go up Pier Ave.
Still not sure if I can ride my bike up there so don't bother to shop down there especially as it stinks of deisel fumes from filthy ,stinky buses. |
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pepsi
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 161
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Am off to council meeting tonight as I fancy a bit of fun.
Have looked at the agenda and some interesting questions are being raised including one to Councillor Shearing on how the traders were consulted about the road changes and if he believes that some of the changes are down right dangerous.
His response should be interesting  |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1188 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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With a rattling of sabres from the benches, its a loud Hear- Hear......
TOP MAN.... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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