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amenity
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| ivan burit wrote: | "He admitted that he knew his figures were too low and that it would cost far more to stage these games but he did not care and would do the same thing again."
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Red Ken laid his traps with no knowledge of his downfall...
We have in TDC a very simular "red ken" type that is not in our world either, how much longer before he disapears too....... |
I can now understand the Italians and Mussolini.
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Took this from Lloyds List today. Makes you think does't it?
Box trades in crisis as Asia-Europe rates collapse
Lines say not even pre-Christmas shipping season can save Asia-Europe rates from freefall
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Tonight on Telly, Felixstowe Dock representative;
"The Marine law that is being brought in is likely to make dredging
much more expensive as it sets rigorous environmental controls and nine
ports, HPUK for one are campaigning for them to be exempted.. Who
else dredges? the port at Felixstowe spokesperson was quoted as saying
that environmental concerns should not outweigh economic ones!!"
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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A telling piece from Lloyds List today.
Road to nowhere
By Neville Smith
Thursday 17 July 2008
THE shipping industry is fixated on the short-term for perfectly understandable reasons.
The problem is that too often the latest predictions of industry gurus are of little use when making investment decisions.
Of course, we wouldn’t be without the pundits who pop up every week to tell us either that the sky is falling or that the future is so bright that sunglasses are now mandatory.
Thanks to their tendency to yo-yo, the bulk and tanker markets are the most prone to navel-gazing, an effect magnified, or mitigated, by their burgeoning futures markets.
The bulk markets — with their collective memory of a May fly’s half-life — seem doomed never to learn from history and so endlessly repeat it.
Container shipping exhibits similar problems, as well as sentiment that can effect some sharp directional changes. Even so, it tends to be seen as the ship that takes longer to turn, with its fixed schedules, exposure to a longer supply chain and greater forward exposure to consumer confidence.
So it was heartening to read a liner shipping boss doing some straight talking when Ron Widdows warned the industry should be prepared for lay-ups and service withdrawals in the teeth of the coming downturn.
Not that this is good news, but the evidence of contracting volumes on the Pacific and falling Asia-Europe freight rates should encourage the wider industry to look past the Beijing Olympics to a rather longer, deeper correction than most seem to think is possible, and to plan accordingly. |
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ports are sold around the world for huge sums yet we let ours go for nothing.
Hutchison bags Greek port project
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A consortium including Hong Kong's Hutchison Whampoa's ports unit and Greek pharmaceutical group Alapis SA offered the highest bid to manage and develop container terminal operations in Thessaloniki, Greece's second largest port, Dow Jones reports.
According to press reports the joint offer totaled US$4.9 billion.
Other bidders for the port included Dubai Ports World, which teamed up with Greek construction group Aktor and Piraeus Bank; and China's Cosco.
Last year the country's centre-right New Democracy government announced its plans to privatize the container management operations at the Piraeus Port Authority and the Thessaloniki Port Authority.
The government controls around 74 percent of both ports, and wants private companies who can manage and invest in their container terminal operations for up to 35 year |
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amenity2
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Did you see the news last night about the Felixstowe port expension?
BBC reported it, but did not call it Felixstowe South reconfiguration. They just said there was work going on to reclaim the basin. Possibly HPUK (port owners) only intend to do a bit of the overall plan? HPUK said they were going to construct Phase 1 first and follow this with phase 2 if business required.
Harwich has been overflown by thousands of Gulls the last few days and during the interview with the contracter he implied that the Gulls will get used to it, and return to their nests. |
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Lloyds List today;
"Container shipping slump on horizon as cargo volumes drop
Asia to northern Europe liftings fall 0.48% in June
By Janet Porter - Tuesday 29 July 2008
THE prospects of a full-scale container shipping slump drew closer yesterday as new figures showed that cargo volumes from Asia to northern Europe contracted in June as several leading economies headed towards recession.
Last month’s decline was the first recorded since 2001 when the industry hit rock bottom, with both freight and charter ra..." |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1238 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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"Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Bathside Bay, will it really happen now..?.?
On todays look east, we have the continuing problems with Felixtow Port.
The wind, and today - much more with the crane falling over.
I`ve looked at the "opposition" .."
well amenity, looks like our crystal ball`s have been working overtime, unlike the dock workers in real time or future time..
poor fellows....... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| ivan burit wrote: | "Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Bathside Bay, will it really happen now..?.?
On todays look east, we have the continuing problems with Felixtow Port.
The wind, and today - much more with the crane falling over.
I`ve looked at the "opposition" .."
well amenity, looks like our crystal ball`s have been working overtime, unlike the dock workers in real time or future time..
poor fellows....... |
Ivan, was it recently that the crane fell over?
My sympathy for dock workers is tinged, I liken them, as a group, to workers in a cigarette factory, well why should people that live near ports suffer so much pollution from shipping especially when recent scientific evidence has shown that the pollution extends 200 miles inland.
Sadly we have to rely on local councils such as TDC to control port operatives. District councils get their wage revenue stream from rates collected from commerce and unfortunately they have shown that they are quite prepared to sacrifice the healthy lives some of us because their decisions are coloured by their own individual benefit. |
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amenity2
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I've posted this in full, it looks as though this development will take some action from other port suppliers, but most importantly the new port will be constructed on a site that is big enough to allow for expansion and the logistics part of the construction may turn out to be the most important element in the ports success.
DP World finally starts London Gateway construction
26/Aug/2008
Port development company DP World has finally commenced building what is projected to become one of Europe's largest logistics facilities on a site to the east of London, England.
The Dubai-based organisation last week signed contracts with civil engineering companies Laing O'Rourke and Dredging International. The first tranche of the contract will be worth £400m, with the total cost of the project estimated at £1.5bn.
'London Gateway', as the development is called, will be located on the north bank of the Thames estuary just a few miles downstream from the existing Tilbury container terminal. It will be centred on a huge new port ultimately capable of annually handling 3.5m TEUs (twenty-foot equivalent units). In addition to what will be a substantial addition to north-western Europe's port infrastructure, the facility may also offer what DP World claims will be Europe's largest logistics park.
The container terminal will be built on the site of a former oil refinery which has been levelled. That location will now be built up using river silt to create a 'bund' jutting a hundred metres into the estuary. The silt will be sourced from the dredging of a new 100km long channel in the Thames estuary.
The London Gateway development is one element of a further major general expansion of container terminal capacity at northern European ports which also includes the huge Maasvlakte 2 project in Rotterdam (TI Logistics Briefing, News, August 22) and the JadeWeserPort project in northern Germany.
When the London Gateway facility is finally in full operation, it will be capable of handling the largest post-panamax vessels of 15,000 TEUs, with a draft of over 16 metres. The site also offers 200,000 square metres of hard-standing for ro-ro operations.
The project has suffered from some delays, with planning permission from the British government particularly slow in arriving. However, the start date for container handling operations given by DP World is now the third quarter 2011, 18 months after the original projections. By that time, the terminal will have the ability to handle 1.5m TEUs annually, with the rest of the capacity being phased in according to demand.
DP World's ambitions, however, are not just restricted to container port operations. It hopes to create a logistics resource that will enable shippers and LSPs (logistics service providers) to redesign the logistics strategies that serve the British market. By creating a large warehousing complex next to the port, it will offer shippers/importers the option of stripping containers at the port and locating their inventory at its warehousing facilities. At present, most shippers/importers bring containers to their warehousing facilities in the centre of the country. DP World wants to try and change that by promoting its 'port centric' logistics strategy.
Certainly, London Gateway will offer shippers the ability to move goods directly almost to the centre of London. However, that will come at a price. Although the port is located on London's orbital M25 motorway and will have the ability to handle six block trains at any one time, road and rail traffic in the area can be highly congested. The DP World management says it has set a target of 30% of container movements in and out the facility being by train, with around a further 20% being transhipped. However, at present there is a shortage of rail capacity and depots in the south-east of England so once again DP World will have to rely on the slow-moving central government to install additional rail track.
The projected warehousing facilities are certainly substantial. Diagrams of the site suggest that the largest facility will be a high-bay warehouse of approximately 30,000 square metres, with around ten sites of that size or less. However, DP World would not confirm that it had any customers for those planned facilities or that they would actually be built.
London Gateway is not the first big port to try and capture some of the 'land-side' logistics market. However, it has a challenge to fulfil its ambitions for redesigning the logistics strategies of its clients. Nonetheless, the size and scope of the London Gateway project illustrates how port companies are trying to leverage their already powerful presence in the supply chain. |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1238 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: |
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There you go amenity.......Bathside Bay, will it ever get built....
By the look of it, the Thames Gateway will be a busy - busy place starting soon, unlike our many positioned management @ Haven Gateway, IN-Tend, Tendring Regeneration Ltd etc.........
Only at the beginning of this year we were told that £1.26 million was to be made available for regeneration, by the sale of assetts........
W R O N G.......
Were the asses not assets, for believing it, it was for trumped up jobs and wages, not major building projects....
I know of a local trading company employing about 12 workers with about 5 vans on 24 hour call, who told me they are going "nicely bankrupt".......
Sounds like about a dozen high profile names in our regeneration businesses.... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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amenity2
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Dovercourt
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| ivan burit wrote: |
Were the asses not assets, for believing it, it was for trumped up jobs and wages, not major building projects....
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I must say Ivan, when put like that it looks very much like theft. |
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ivan burit

Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1238 Location: live the life you love, love the life you lead, if that fails, buy a big Harley Davidson.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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More on this amenity:
DP World today 20th signs a £400 million contract to build the first phase of a new port at London Gateway, the most technically advanced container port in the world, integrated with Europe’s largest logistics park. This is the first major contract to be awarded in the £1.5 billion project, due to be built over the next 10 to 15 years. The contract is over five years, and will see the construction of the first phase of the port’s quay providing three berths and over 1.2 kilometres of quay in a joint venture between Laing O’Rourke and Dredging International. The new port will eventually handle 3.5milion TEU (twenty foot equivalent units), providing a much needed increase in capacity for the UK’s container terminals. The South Essex project is currently set to be the largest creator of new jobs in the UK, delivering over 12,000 in the coming years, and is the largest investment in the South East of England. London Gateway is the UK’s first deep sea container port for over 25 years and will change the way millions of consumer goods are transported around the country. By integrating the new container port with a logistics park, many everyday goods will be sent to the nation’s shops without having to be hauled on a truck to a distribution centre often situated inland hundreds of miles away from a container port. Instead, goods will go straight into London Gateway’s own logistics park to be sorted and then sent direct to shops.
General News - London Gateway contract signed
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
By reducing the need for the goods to travel inland, the project will save 2,000 trucks from the UK’s highways every day, trucks which normally travel from a port and then return with an empty container to be put back onto a ship. DP World estimates that by cutting out this inefficient part of the logistics process, London Gateway will take 52 million truck miles off the UK’s highways every year, reducing congestion, saving time, fuel and curbing carbon emissions. Using new technology, London Gateway will aim to move fifty percent more containers per hour on and off ships than is currently being achieved in the UK. Containers will be transferred automatically from the quay into a fully automated storage area. This efficiency increase will allow the world’s shipping lines to save valuable time and money. The new port will also offer other benefits such as being more sustainable, creating less light pollution and less noise for the surrounding areas. Dredging the Thames will be carried out to enable the world’s largest ships to access the port. The dredging work will allow many other users of the River Thames to benefit by allowing increased access closer to London.
For a picture on what it will look like, scroll through this link:
http://www.ais-live.co.uk/News/shippingnewsarchive.html
The link in itself is quite readable too... _________________ In truth we seek,In truth we learn,In Tendering,We get neither.. |
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amenity2
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Great link Ivan,
The area behind a port is significant, Felixstowe just doesn't have enough of it and Bathside Bay would be a waste of money.
To combine Felixstowe with Bathside Bay it was seriously suggested that barges be used to ship containers from one to the other, and anybody that has been near heavy handling knows the golden rule "don't double handle" no profit that way.
No logistics park, what were they thinking off?
The owners of the London Gateway of course have a bottomless pit when it comes to money and are showing that they have been well advised, unlike HPUK. |
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