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amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Look on the packet;

DON'T buy Hydrodgenated foods.

New York has made it illegal to sell this hydrogenated oil in any food in any food outlet.

Don't buy Aspartame ie sweeteners of any kind;

In most soft drinks in fact in most liquids with the word DRINK on them or often SLIMMING or CALORIE plenty more tricks to get you to buy this cheaper way to sweeten food.

If you know of any DON'TS put them up here.

EssexGurl · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 222

If the Americans have done it we'll soon be doing it - in this case its no bad thing.

Salt is a bad thing in excess. Dont add it to food when you cook it. Its hidden in so many processed foods already.

I believe that MSG isnt to good for you either.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

I should add, Essegurl, that the Swedish government have banned it for years.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Phosphoric acid is another rots the bones among other things. Where do you buy that? Well in Coco Cola of course.

Why do they put Phosphoric acid in Coke, it allows more co2 to be squeezed in.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Thermal phosphoric acid: This very pure phosphoric acid is obtained by burning elemental phosphorus to produce phosphorus pentoxide and dissolving the product in dilute phosphoric acid. This is the cleanest way of producing phosphoric acid, since most impurities present in the rock have been removed when extracting Phosphorus from the rock in a furnace. The end result is food grade, thermal phosphoric acid; however, for critical applications additional processing to remove arsenic compunds may be needed.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Like most other colas, Coca-Cola contains phosphoric acid. One study has shown that this hastens bone loss, contributing to illnesses such as osteoporosis.[30]

There is also some concern regarding the usage of high fructose corn syrup in the production of Coca-Cola. Since 1985 in the U.S., Coke has been made with high fructose corn syrup, instead of sugar glucose or fructose, to reduce costs. This has come under criticism because of concerns that the corn used to produce corn syrup may come from genetically altered plants.[31] Some nutritionists also caution against consumption of high fructose corn syrup because of possible links to obesity and diabetes.[32]

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Just in case you wondered here is the site with info on soft drinks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Dear ferret,
Who would have thought Soy could do this?
"Out of curiosity I asked my friends who consumed tofu and soy milk and was surprised to find that they all had some form of thyroid disease, including Graves Disease, Hashimoto's Disease, and some were taking large amounts of thyroid medication."

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

The health harming confusion about saturated fats. Look at this website.

http://www.mercola.com/2006/dec/2...onfusion-about-saturated-fats.htm

Type- 2 diabetes did not exist 100 years ago when the human diet was rich in saturated fats.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Ferret ,
Couldn't agree more.

ferret · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Harwich

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Lin · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton

OMG (sorry Vicar) have just googled MSG ADDITIVE and what I have just read has scared the life out of me.No wonder we have a massive increase in ADHD and associated conditions in children.
As a carer of a little lad with these type problems I am so glad that we do not 'do' processed foods.
Today we are encouraged to give our children Omega Fish oils .If they ate a proper ,balanced diet ,would they still advocate it?.
I personally think manufacturers are to blame for a lot of kids problems ,dirt cheap ,processed ,fried in fat food ,easier to throw in the oven and no thought involved or send 'em off to the chippy ,Mcdonalds ,KFC ect .
What is wrong with us as a nation ,look at the U.S and you can see us in 10 years ,fat ,unhealthy and lazy.
I'm off to see what else we are poisoning our children with ...may need some Valarian to calm my nerves at the end of this.

EssexGurl · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 222

Part of the problem is that the worst of the food is the cheapest. When you are on a budget it may seem like the obvious choice. I do buy some processed food but I do try to make a lot too. Also part of the problems now though are that those who were taught at school in the last 10-15 years really havent been taught how to cook. These parents are feeding their kids cheap, processed food that just needs to be thrown in the cooker or deep fat fryer. That in turn teaches the kids that that is how you cook. I know we cant blame the schools 100% for whats happening but if they arent there to counter what is being shown at home what hope is there. If the goverment really cared about what is happening to peoples diets they need to get a lot stricter. Sorting out school food is a start, but they need to show kids right from the age of 5 up how easy it is to make good food. That it doesnt need to be swimming in fat to taste nice and that it can be made quite cheaply. I really want to suggest that they tax the junk processed food more than they already do so that people will have no choice but to buy healthy but until they find a way to bring down the price of frut and veg whilst not screwing the farmers over I cant see how that can happen. I am lucky I have a big fridge so if I see things like apples and bananas on offer I stock up. But not everyone can do that and if you compare the price of a multi pack of crisps and a bag of apples the apples do tend to be more expensive.

I read that as a nation we were at pur healthiest during the war years and rationing. I guess cos people had no choice other than what was healthy and limit things like sugar. There has to be an answer to this problem.

Lin · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 520 Location: Gt Clacton

You know EssexGirl ,for a really funny person ,you speak a lot of sense.

I go to my local Butcher and spend roughly £12-15 per week on meat.I have 100 ways of making minced beef into various dishes and a chicken goes round for two meals.I buy my potatoes from the local farm shop for about £4 a sack and fresh veg .I will not buy ready made cakes ect as we like the smell/taste of home -made cakes and they are cheaper in the long run and more fun to make with children .
I suppose I am lucky as I only work part-time now ,but apart from fish fingers my daughters never ate rubbish even when I did work full-time.
We have the occasional Take Away but I begrudge doing that as the price could cover 2/3 days healthy meals.
Half the problem ,as you pointed out,is parents don't know how to cook anymore.
As for school dinners ,well that went wrong when they got rid of proper cooks and made the dinner ladies cook pre heated stuff.Oh and those awful trays to eat off.What is wrong with a plate AND knife and fork.

EssexGurl · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 222

Thank you Lin.

One good book I brought recently was The Dinner Lady by Jeanette Orrey. She helped Jamie Oliver a lot but was sorting out her school food before his campaign. Her recipes are fab. They have the ingrediant amounts for 4 (which I have been assured will do for 7) and then I think its for 96 for the school cooks. But the book is half recipe and half a book book and she explains how her school includes the cooks in helping to teach the kids to eat healthily. Down to some of the kids helping devise a menu. Though time consumming I am sure it does prove that if you include the kids in it and let them help they will take to it all a lot quicker. Its funny but she also mentions what she calls those awful airline trays. As soom as they were able to they got rid of them and got proper cutlery and plates back.

One of my kids is doing cookery at the mo, though its called something else. Last week she was taught how to make mash. This week its scones. I mean why do they think that they need to teach kids how to make just mash. Show them how to make a shepherds/cottage pie. You still go the mash part but with that you've got literally a whole meal too. When one of the others was doing it they had to make cornish pasties but were told to bring in frozen pastry. I know its easier for the teachers but why not show the kids how to make pastry, at least they will have a basic knowledge that is very easy to expand on. I'm not to great with pastry so I'm not the best one to teach them - yet, but I'll get there.

I'm a whizz with mince too. I know a lot of people dont like it but I like its versatility and the fact you can make one basic recipe and turn it into many others. I made a meatloaf the other day from an american recipe, but put in what we like and omitted what we didnt and I have to say it was gorgeous, needs a bit of tweeking but it was nice.

They say we are becoming an old nation, so you would have thought that the need to have the younger generation healthy would be paramount. Last thing that we need is for the 80 yr olds to have to become carers to the obese 30 yr olds who are to fat to get of the sofa.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Mobile phones are in the health news again.

From the Indy.

Mobile phones 'more dangerous than smoking'

Brain expert warns of huge rise in tumours and calls on industry to take immediate steps to reduce radiation

By Geoffrey Lean
Sunday, 30 March 2008

Mobile phones could kill far more people than smoking or asbestos, a study by an award-winning cancer expert has concluded. He says people should avoid using them wherever possible and that governments and the mobile phone industry must take "immediate steps" to reduce exposure to their radiation.

The study, by Dr Vini Khurana, is the most devastating indictment yet published of the health risks.

It draws on growing evidence – exclusively reported in the IoS in October – that using handsets for 10 years or more can double the risk of brain cancer. Cancers take at least a decade to develop, invalidating official safety assurances based on earlier studies which included few, if any, people who had used the phones for that long.

Earlier this year, the French government warned against the use of mobile phones, especially by children. Germany also advises its people to minimise handset use, and the European Environment Agency has called for exposures to be reduced.

Professor Khurana – a top neurosurgeon who has received 14 awards over the past 16 years, has published more than three dozen scientific papers – reviewed more than 100 studies on the effects of mobile phones. He has put the results on a brain surgery website, and a paper based on the research is currently being peer-reviewed for publication in a scientific journal.

He admits that mobiles can save lives in emergencies, but concludes that "there is a significant and increasing body of evidence for a link between mobile phone usage and certain brain tumours". He believes this will be "definitively proven" in the next decade.

Noting that malignant brain tumours represent "a life-ending diagnosis", he adds: "We are currently experiencing a reactively unchecked and dangerous situation." He fears that "unless the industry and governments take immediate and decisive steps", the incidence of malignant brain tumours and associated death rate will be observed to rise globally within a decade from now, by which time it may be far too late to intervene medically.

"It is anticipated that this danger has far broader public health ramifications than asbestos and smoking," says Professor Khurana, who told the IoS his assessment is partly based on the fact that three billion people now use the phones worldwide, three times as many as smoke. Smoking kills some five million worldwide each year, and exposure to asbestos is responsible for as many deaths in Britain as road accidents.

Late last week, the Mobile Operators Association dismissed Khurana's study as "a selective discussion of scientific literature by one individual". It believes he "does not present a balanced analysis" of the published science, and "reaches opposite conclusions to the WHO and more than 30 other independent expert scientific reviews".

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

WOW!!!

Best-selling Sanatogen vitamin pills are dyed with harmful additives

By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Tuesday, 15 April 2008

Britain's best-selling vitamin pill is dyed with artificial colours which can cause rashes and hyperactive behaviour in children.

Two colours – sunset yellow and quinoline yellow – criticised in an official study which led to their censure by the Food Standards Agency (FSA) last week – are found in Sanatogen Gold, the country's leading multivitamin brand.

Sanatogen's Kids A To Z Strawberry Flavour vitamins have another suspect additive: the red colouring Ponceau 4R.

Many customers may have been unaware of the presence of the additives because they are listed by name without their E-numbers in small print in the middle of a long list of ingredients on vitamin pill containers. On its website, Sanatogen acknowledges that the artificial colours are ingredients in its products but claims they are "non-allergenic".

However, EU guidelines state that, if used in medicines, all three colours would have to carry the warning: "May cause allergies". Ponceau 4R and quinoline yellow can cause skin problems including hives and eczema in a small number of people, and are banned in the US.

Last week, the FSA called for a European Union ban on six additives, including the three currently used by Sanatogen, because they made children more hyperactive in a £750,000 study carried out by Southampton University.

The regulator has called for British manufacturers to remove the additives from hundreds of fizzy drinks, cakes, sweets and chocolates by 2009.

Sanatogen, owned by the healthcare giant Bayer, which has vitamin sales of £40m, made no comment.

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

Saw this on the Indyn web site.
Dorset cancer rates twice national average.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life...ghest-rates-of-cancer-849211.html

There is some good news for Dorset. It may be a good place to have cancer as the county's death rate is well below average. Joanna Owens of Cancer Research UK, which released the figures, said: "The main factor in cancer incidence is age. Many of the cancers in Dorset are 'good prognosis' cancers which respond to treatment. As it is an affluent area, people are well aware of the symptoms and know to report things early."

amenity · Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 775 Location: Dovercourt

This was news (Friends of the Earth Magazine June 2008) to me, have I eaten any of this rice?

Red alert on rice
The Food Standards Agency (FSA) has finally declared that an illegal variety of GM rice which has contaminated the UK food chain is unsafe. The rice - Bt63 from China -was discovered 18 months ago.
Bt63 is an experimental grain, genetically modified to produce an insecticide. It is not approved for human consumption or commercial cultivation anywhere, and scientific studies have raised concerns about its risk to human health.

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