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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Flooding Reply with quote

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Location: Harwich
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: Flooding
Living in an area that is at danger of being flooded by the sea I am aware that next month is potentially a dangerous time for many of us living in the region.

I read in the standard today that sandbags are avaliable to buy from TDC for £3.50. It doesnt state whether this is each or for a whole lot. Surely at a time when people are potentially facing losing their porperty these should be free. There will be some on low incomes who may not have any insurance and may not be able to afford to buy sandbags. Also it doesnt state whether you need to collect the sandbags or if they can be delivered. What about older people who may have no one to help them?

Fingers crossed that next month that we wont be trying to save as many of our things as possible, but if the worst comes to the worst do you think that TDC is doing enough?

You can check here http://www.environment-agency.gov...674/829803/?version=1&lang=_e to see if you are at risk from flooding.
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daveb



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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Location: Jaywick
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject:
Yes it is £3.50 per bag, the bag being a plastic one. TDCs only comment is that it is not their responsibility to take care of your home its entirely down to the householder. from our caring sharing Council
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:54 am Post subject:
Well they really are going to have a problem if there are floods and people need rehousing.

Whilst I agree that the householder has a responsibility to look after their home I do think that as their landlord TDC have a responsibility to the people who are in social housing.

There are quite a lot of flats in old Harwich so I wonder if TDC expect the people in the flats (most of those on the ground floor are old people) to protect the whole of the area themselves.

Fingers crossed that the worst doesnt happen but it would be nice to know if TDC has any emergency plans ready to put into action - or is is going to be one major cock up.
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daveb



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:
EssexGurl wrote:

Fingers crossed that the worst doesnt happen but it would be nice to know if TDC has any emergency plans ready to put into action - or is is going to be one major cock up.


Well I don't know about Harwich, but from a leaflet recently sent around, it seems that there is no specific plan for Jaywick, which comes as no big surprise. So I leave you to draw your own conclusions.
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EssexGurl



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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:
I suspect that at the end of the day the majority of us will be in the same boat.

I do know for a fact that the flood warden for Harwich didnt even know that earlier this month there was a worry about the high tides. Not sure if he knows about next month. They have been testing the flood warning siren though. The only reason we know is that we know some of the workers on Navy yard and they told us about fillinh sandbags to protect their warehouses.

To be honest it isnt my family I am worried about. We do live very close to the sea but as we have had some warning we do have a flood plan as such and if we get told to leave as we have a car we can. Not everyone is in our position. If we are told to evacuate the town, and it would be all of old Harwich I think that would be, who helps the old and infirm. Its not like there is even a lot of police that could help.

Just out of interest what was the leaflet?
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Amenity



Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Location: Dovercourt
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject:
This is a tad out of date but worth a read, applies to Essex and flooding global warming etc.

http://www.essexcc.gov.uk/vip8/ec...ch=%22stenning%20ecc%20harwich%22
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ivan burit



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: floods
well fingers crossed, we`ve passed the threshold of high tides... have any of you signed up for the free service from the enviroment agency, called flood line... if you call 0845 988 1188... speak to the nice people there, i did, and i gave them a dedicated phone number (my mobile) to call me if there is any cause for concern...its free, its worthwhile, and you know it makes sence.... as i live 30metres from the north sea, i now feel more secure in the knowledge that IF i have to get out quick, the phone warning will give me time to move anything that needs moving ect, cars, furniture, cat - dogs, wife ect...lol... well when did you ever get a good free offer lately..........
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who doubts the possibilty of severe flooding in Jaywick and the surrounding area take a look at the Friends of the Earth Marinet web site http://www.marinet.org.uk/index.html
Having previously read quite a lot on the DEFRA website, about the Shoreline Management Plan, not so much a plan more a 'who cares', and the 'making room for water' proposals. I've come to the conclusion that as far as central government goes, the so called managed retreat policy will continue. In that if for purely economic reasons Sea Defence funding cannot be justified, all be it that that evaluation is flawed, then it won't happen, so long as the treasury keeps raking in hundreds of millions of pounds each year from the Coastal Dredging industry.
On DEFRA's web site they seem far more interested in spending vast sums of money on Consultants analysing the Social Impact of Flooding than on actual research into better methods of protection.
On the Marinet site despite being part of an Eco friendly organisation, they put forward sound sustainable principles which should be applied to the proposed SMP. Their stance is supported by research from all over the Western world, which for once does not blame Global Warming for everything, but seem to be completely overlooked by those with the authority in the UK to actually do anything about it, meanwhile erosion projections are accepted from companies whose primary employer is the offshore dredging industry. As Max Miller would say, "Now theres a funny thing".
Take a look at http://www.marinet.org.uk/mad/beachrecharge.html about Beach recharging. I'm only a simple sole, but plain commonsense would seem to bear out what their saying
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